, i think that -- >> china i think is showing growth. europe may not show growth in my lifetime, but they're going to be bailed out. do you think stock market -- i know it's had a mini correction since mid september, but it may be coming back now. question, does the stock market in its wisdom see a deal from washington on fiscal policy? >> i think that the stock market has already -- doesn't care about that anymore. we're on to the next thing. >> what is the next thing? >> even if they don't come the a deal, they will two weeks later. >> so might come in the new year. >> it might come in the new year. >> january, stocks are already discounting that. >> with band aids and glitter stickers, something is going to happen eventually. we have discounted that. this has been on the table for two years. this is not a new thing. it's their way of staying in the spotlight. >> question, apple which lost 6% today, apple is down about 24% since mid september. >> that's right. >> is apple the way -- you know, when we used to look at ge, the way we used